REAL MUSIC CONVERSATIONS
transcribed by Matt Silcock
trip ya out, guess how old Paul McCartney was on Let
It Be, on the last Beatles album.
Ė Abbey Road was the last album.
It wasnít released
last, but it was recorded last. Let It Be was recorded,
with the film and everything, but the tapes sat there
for awhile because they didnít really consider it an album.
Eventually, Phil Spector came in and remixed the tapes
and added string sections and crazy stuff, and it was
released, but by the time that happened they had already
recorded Abbey Road. So in reality they ended on
a pretty friendly note.
but . . . I bet if thereíd been a film crew at the Abbey
Road sessions itíd be just as bad. Or you know, just
as boring, with them all sitting around and not smiling
much. I mean, if you get enough footage, you can edit
any story out of it that you want, just look at the MTV
Real World. Abbey Road is perceived as friendlier
just because they actually had written songs and they
went in and knocked Ďem out. I mean, what makes Let
It Be so ragged is that they went in without writing
any songs! It was all like "One After 909" and
there was "Get Back." "The Long And Winding
Road." Those were tunes.
well "Get Back" is just a I-IV-V boogie. I mean,
they play it great but it still sounds pretty thrown together.
thatís Paul McCartneyís pop genius, he can take a basic
blues shuffle and make a pop hit out of it, just by adding
these "sweet Loretta" hooks and holding back
just right on his falsetto. (sings, demonstrating) Get
back.....get back....You know thatís John playing
all those blues licks on that?
yeah, I didnít know that Ďtil I saw the movie.
love those mellow licks . . .
. . .
you know, "The Long and Winding Road" is just
a Paul McCartney song. He just recorded it solo on the
piano while you know, John was laying in bed with Yoko
at like 2 in the afternoon and Ringo was playing pool
and George was meditating or smoking pot or something.
Phil Spector added all those strings, itís not a Beatles
song, itís a McCartney solo song produced by Phil Spector.
Which reminds me of why I started this conversation! How
old do you think Paul McCartney was then, when he recorded
"The Long and Winding Road" for Let It Be?
was actually 29. He was all done with The Beatles by the
age of 29! I mean thatís the life. Iím 29. Iím pretty
much retired from music too, but you see instead of making
millions I lostÖhundreds! (both laugh) But yeah, "Let
It Be" was basically a McCartney solo song. I mean,
Ringo played drums and Paul brought in George for the
guitar solo. But Spector added tons of strings, and even
the drums mightíve been done after Paul played and sung
the basic track.
one take with a few different mics.
bunch of mics! They mic the shit outíve that piano! They
got like . . . fifteen mics along there.
of course a vocal mic.
Probably just one.
I don't know, you might
be surprised. Might have, like, four vocal mics!
you know, itís of those Sup Pop releases that were like,
promos? And were black and white and in those like . .
. thin . . . jewel cases?
Oh, yeah, those were their storeplay
copies that they put out from like . . . í93 to í95. They
actually said "In-Store Play Copy" or something
like that, right on the cover. Like a standardized cover,
whether it was Sebadoh, or . . . who else was there?
Yeah, like '93, the Sub Pop "store
We had a Big Chief one . . .
Avenue Skull Game!
That was pretty good.
I was just thinking about that album the other day. (sings)
"If I had a nickel
. . ."
(nodding, smiling, then singing along) "For
every dime . . ." And that...track two or somethin'...that
big brassy rock song that was like "One born every
minute"... (he sings, feigning a guitar part)
and sincere but not quite certain what song is being referred
to) . . . Yeah! . . . Yeah . . .
of these new die-cut fold-out-cardboard "non-jewel-box"
thingies are really tricky to work with. Iím kind of a
jewel-box gal myself. Itís just so simple. Itís universal.
And yeah, thatís Nazi or whatever, but I mean, thereís
things I hate about jewel boxes, like when the little
hinge-thingies (she starts using her hands to explain)
. . . that connect the . . . lid? To the case? The swivel
thingies. When they break off
. . . and so every time you open it, you pull the . .
. lid . . . all the way off. I hate that! And also, when
the things like . . .where you stick the CD in (more
attempts to describe with her hands) . . .
the teeth! When they break off??!!!
I hate that too.
you been listening to?
Um...millions of things!
Actually, the new
Flaming Lips album. I just got that. About two years after
it came out.
Oh yeah...isn't it
It really is. It just
gets more and more beautiful.
The Flaming Lips have
always been this band that can just...be as cheesy as
they wanna be, sell out as much as they wanna...
Cuz they always seem
to know exactly who they are.
Exactly. When I saw
'em on Beverly Hills 90210, that was just...like this
zen parable that hit me like a lightning bolt.
No, for real! 'Cause,
you know, when I was young and pissed off I thought that
selling out meant, you know, any time a band participated
in the whole corporate entertainment industry at all,
they were automatically sellin' out. But when I saw the
Flaming Lips on 90210, and they were so good,
I realized (she affects mystical monotone faux-hypnotized
speaking voice) 'There is one true way for every band.
Selling out does not exist. Only true ways."
"There are as many true ways as there are bands.
But not every band can discover their true way."
Yeah, yeah....I feel